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Paul Maddocks
Frank Magaldino
Jenny Magtalas
Chris. Maillebouis
Jon Malander
Michael Malander
Eugene Manning
Frank Marotta
David Marsh
Jeanette Martin
Pervaz Masih
Dave Mason
Len Mason
Lydia Matejov
Josiah Matthews
Jeanne Maynard
Warren McAlpin
Wendy McAvene
Ian McDowell
Lois McFarlane
Ian McGee
Phil McGrath
Gene McLeod
Edmund McMullan
Gordon MacNeil
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Paul Maddocks

To: Paul Maddocks
enraATbtopenworld.com
Lewes, East Sussex, England
Wed, 4 Dec 2002

Dear Paul,
Welcome to 'My Brethren'.

I am copying this, with your original message, to two friends in the London area with the hope that one of them, at least, may be able to put you in touch with some brethren in your area of East Sussex.

In the meantime please avail yourself of the much good ministry on MB.

In the Lord, Gordon.

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Frank Magaldino


From: Frank Magaldino
popmagsATyahoo.com
Hampstead, NC, USA
Sun, 5 Nov 2000

Bro Gordon:
Thank you for responding to my message of Nov. 4 : wife and I meet alone to remember the Lord; seeking others of like precious faith willing to gather unto Him "outside the camp".

Its my 1st try on the internet. While I was playing around I came across the site on so called Plymouth brethren.
[ Steve Hesterman's site ]

I wonder if you know John Van Dijk from Ajax, ON; I met John one year at the Grove City Conference in Pennsylvania back in the early 70's.

I must read your message; I'm afraid to leave this spot until I get this message back to you.

I sure do desire to meet some brethren here that treasure gathering to Him outside the camp.

Once again thanks for your response it was delightful.

Frank Magaldino.


To: Frank Magaldino.
Tue, 07 Nov 2000

Dear Frank,
It was a pleasure to hear from you and learn something of your history and exercises.

Yes, I knew John and Jake some 25 years ago, when I was briefly connected with them. John drafted me into helping him edit the early issues of "Come and See" but it proved to be an unworkable situation, as did the whole connection itself. As to myself, check Personal: My Journey.

I hope you will find time to explore 'My Brethren' and find encouragement in reading the experiences of others in the Mailbox and edification in the ministry.

I'm looking forward to hearing from you again, and my wife Betty joins in love in the Lord Jesus to you and your wife, whose name we don't know yet. Gordon.


From: Frank Magaldino.
Tue, 7 Nov 2000

Gordon,
So you knew John and Jake; but you had to part ways, that's too bad.

I came among brethren in about 1972 and met with the open meeting in Newton, N.J. but after a short spell my wife (Sherry) and I with the 2 children started remembering the Lord at our home (kids didn't break bread).

Anyway you said I could find out more about you from "Personal: My Journey".

Do you know Roy Huebner from Morganville, N.J. or Art Hart from Pennsyvania; the latter was my mentor for a number of years.

Gotta go now; that's New Jersey for I have to sign off.

bro Frank Magaldino.


To: Frank Magaldino
Wed, 08 Nov 2000

Dear Frank,
Thanks for the additional personal information.

Just to make things clear: 'PlymouthBrethren.com' is Steve Hesterman's site and 'My Brethren' is my site.

I know the internet and different web sites can be a bit confusing at first. perhaps the following will help you find your way around MB.

When you access 'My Brethren' select 'Menu-SiteMap' at the foot of the opening page for a list of the site contents.

Let me know how you get on.

With love in our Lord Jesus to you and Sherry, Gordon.


From: Frank Magaldino
Thu, 9 Nov 2000

Gordon:
Got your latest replies and it helped. I found "My Journey"; appeared to be a rocky road.

I know the feeling of just meeting with the spouse; praise God for believing spouses.

Thanks for the conversations and I'm glad I can get to your site – looks like lots of work.

By the way are you identified with any of the so called exclusives?

Thanks again, bro Franks Magaldino.


To: Frank Magaldino
Fri, 10 Nov 2000

Dear Frank,
As to whether I am "identified with any of the so called exclusives", the simple answer is no.

As to my "stand and the doctrine(s) that keep you separate from others among the exclusives that have resumed fellowship – late 70's", I suppose you mean the so-called "reunited brethren".

Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.


From: Frank Magaldino
Fri, 10 Nov 2000

Dear bro Gordon,
Thanks for your reply. Sounds like you meet alone apart from the expression of the one body; I'd have to say that at the moment Sherry and I are in the same place.

Yours in His service, Frank Magaldino.

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Jenny Magtalas

To: Jenny Magtalas
jenmagtalasAThotmail.com
Caloocan City, Philippines
Thu, 27 Dec 2001

Dear Jenny,
Thanks for visiting 'My Brethren'. Welcome – you are our first guest from the Philippines. Please feel free to share your background and concerns with our other guests in the 'Mailbox'. We'll be glad to hear more from you.

In the Lord, Gordon.

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Christian Maillebouis

To: Christian Maillebouis
cmailATwanadoo.fr
Mazet, France
Sat, 07 Sep, 2002

Dear Christian,
Welcome to 'My Brethren'. I hope you will return and share your background with us.

The limited biographical information I have on Mr. E. L. Bevir can be seen on MB's Ministry: E. L. Bevir: Introduction.

In our Lord, Gordon.

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Jon Malander

To: Jon Malander
mje13ATmsn.com
Ft. Collins, Colorado, USA
Wed, 19 Jun 2002

Dear Jon,
Welcome to 'My Brethren'. I can't put my hands on it before hastily replying to your request, but I recall having some correspondence with you in the early 1970's – possibly in connection with Robert Stott. Can you confirm, and update me as to your situation?

I don't have a telephone no. for Kevin Pearson, but have an address: [not shown here].

In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.


From: Jon Malander
Fri, 21 Jun 2002

Dear Gordon,
Thank you for the quick reply. You are correct. I corresponded with you briefly in the 1970’s.

As to my situation, since I corresponded with you last, I was first with the brethren that Robert Stott was with – at that time referred to as the “Strang” brethren after a Mr. Strang in England.

I was not able to contact Kevin Pearson through the email address you mentioned. I take it the address is no longer active. Thanks for the help anyway.

I would be glad of any contact with other Christians with similar interests by way of email.

Love in our Lord Jesus Christ. May He come soon! Jon.


To: Jon Malander
Thu, 20 Jun 2002

Dear Jon,
Sorry you couldn't get in touch with Kevin Pearson. If a new email address turns up I will let you know.

Thanks for the review of your history since our earlier contact and the details of your present situation.

I've found some of our correspondence and it is humbling to see how confused I was at that time. Thank God for recovery and for his sustaining grace for many years.

Yes, I had heard that John Hunziker was with the Lord. He was a real encouragement to me and made some valuable contibutions to MB.

I trust that your desire to have contacts with others of similar interest will bear fruit. Please let me know of any response and, of course, I'll be very glad to hear from you from time to time.

May the Lord richly bless you and those who meet in your home – as we do in ours.

In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.

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Michael Malander


To: Michael Malander
michael_malanderATyahoo.com
Chandler, Arizona
Wed, 19 May 2004

Dear Michael,
Thanks for contacting us here at 'My Brethren'. Sorry, we aren't aware of meetings in Arizona.

Michael, are you related to Jon Malander?

In the Lord, Gordon.


From: Michael Malander
Say, 22 May 2004

Dear Gordon,
Thank you for your efforts. Yes, I am related to Jon Malander, he is my father.

In Christ, Michael Malander.


To: Michael Malander
From: John D. Vedder
johndvedderATcox.net
Sierra Vista, Arizona
Wed, 26 May 2004

Dear Michael,
Very recently I heard from our mutual friend Gordon Rainbow that you had asked if he knew of any assemblies in the Phoenix area or in the state of Arizona.

In Christ Jesus, John Vedder.

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Eugene Manning

To: Eugene Manning
P7777ATWEBTV.NET
Lafayette, La., USA
Wed, 01 Aug 2001

Dear Eugene,
Welcome to 'My brethren'. I'd be glad to learn something of your background and what areas of MB you are most interested in.

Yours in the Lord, Gordon.

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Frank Marotta

To: Frank Marotta
fmarottaATjuno.com
Location: Unknown
Subject: Old Ministry
Wed, 01 Sep 1999

Re a quotation on EBIX:

"I should state that I am a serious collector of these items, but have the common items. I am looking for less common exclusive titles, especially those that are private circulation and older bound periodicals."

You may be interested in several old out-of-print items from various sources which are on the "My Brethren" site in the "History", "Ministry" and "Doctrine" groups.

Yours in the Lord, Gordon.

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David M. Marsh

To: David M. Marsh
dmmarshATbushinternet.com
Six Bells, Gwent, South Wales, UK
Fri, 17 May 2002

Dear David,
Welcome to 'My Brethren'. I trust you found something of interest and will return from time to time.

I'm looking for biographical information on Mr. F. S. Marsh who served in the ministry of the word among the brethren and am wondering if you are related.

In the Lord, Gordon.

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Jeanette Martin

To: Jeanette Martin
whiterivATtxcyber.com
Hearne, Texas, USA
Mon, 19 Feb 2001

Dear Jeanette,
Welcome to 'My Brethren'. I hope that you found the Biography: C. H. Mackintosh enlightening.

Mr. Darby's 'Operations of the Spirit of God' about which you inquire was written in 1837, just a year or so before CHM's conversion. It is not printed separately and, to my knowledge, is not on the web.

"Christians, and real ones, are too apt (though this may seem a strange assertion) to separate, and too apt to confound, Christ and the Spirit. That is, they separate Christ and the Spirit in operation 'in' us too much; and they confound the work of Christ 'for' us too much with the Spirit. The consequence of both is, uncertainty, meagreness of judgment, and doubt.

"The work of the Spirit of God in me, in the power of life, produces conflict, labour, discoveries of sin, and need of mortifying my members which are on the earth; and the more what "Christ is" is revealed in my soul, in the comparison with the discovery of what I am, the more do I find cause of humiliation – the more do I find, by the contrast of Christ looked at as in the flesh here sinless, God condemning this evil root of sin in the flesh in me. And much more, by the discovery of what my blessed Lord is, as glorified, do I see through the Spirit, how short I am of "attaining," though I may be still changed into the same likeness, from glory to glory.

  • "Hence, though at peace, hope, perhaps animating hope, and joy betimes filling the soul, yet there will be exercised self-judgment and sorrow of heart at the discovery of how every feeling we have towards God, and every object spiritually known, is short of the just effects they should produce and call out; and hence, too, in case of any allowance or indulgence of evil, deep self-abasement and utter abhorrence.

  • "Hence, when the fulness and finishedness of our acceptance in Christ is not known, anxiety and spiritual despondency arise, and doubt, sometimes issuing in a very mistaken and evil reference to the law – a sort of consecrating the principle of unbelief, putting the soul (on the discovery, by the Spirit, of sin working in it) under the law and its condemnation; and not "in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free."

    I trust this is of some use to you, Jeanette, and will be glad to hear from you at any time.

    Yours in our Lord, Gordon.


    From: Jeanette Martin
    Mon, 19 Feb 2001

    Thank you so much for the information you sent. And thank you for the ministry of "My Brethren". It has been a tremendous help.

    Jeanette.

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    Pervaz Rehmat Masih

    From: Evangelist Pervaz Rehmat Masih
    pervaz65ATyahoo.com
    Lahore/Punjab,Pakistan
    Sat, 26 Aug 2000

    Dear brothers in Christ!
    Greetings in the precious name of Jesus Christ!

    I am looking for my admission at Theologlical Seminary at abroad but cannot afford high cost of studies. I am serving with a volunteer organization "The Last Age Ministries, Pakistan" as Incharge Rural Ministry. God is using me for his kingdom. I want to have my good and solid base of my studies. I am Accountant and God has changed my life and visioned me of Global Evangelism. I need to be prepared in most perfect way. I need my Theologlical Seminary Training for this purpose. Can you pray The Lord is almighty and can do everything for me? Thanks.

    Evangelist Pervaz Rehmat Masih, Pakistan.


    To: Pervaz Masih
    Sat, 26 Aug 2000

    [My reply was lost. I explained that we could pray for him personally but that theological seminaries are regarded as unscriptural.]

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    Dave Mason

    To: Dave Mason
    damasATlineone.net
    South Yorkshire, UK
    30 Nov 1998

    Dear Dave,
    Thank you for visiting my site and for your comments. I hope your message brings some replies. I know how important links with friends of earlier years can be.

    It is a great sorrow to be separated from family for whatever reason and it is sad indeed that you were not told about your father at the time.

    Of course, I don't know why you left – there are so many possible reasons – but I trust that you know the Lord Jesus personally and are following Him.

    I would be glad to hear from you at any time, Dave.

    Yours in the Lord, Gordon.

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    Len Mason

    To: Len Mason
    jlAT4ms.freeuk.com
    Belfast, N. Ireland, UK
    Fri, 15 Oct 1999

    Dear Len,
    Thanks for visiting "My Brethren" and for your comments. You did not show your locality. Am I right in assuming it is Belfast

    We have heard rumours about your father, JM, being unwell and – as many of our guests – would be glad to have news of him.

    Your 1959 London Central Hall photo on Dick's site is very interesting. Would it be all right with you to include it on "My Brethren"?

    • If you have any others similar, or of brethren including your father, in jpg format they would be welcome.

    Please drop in again,

    Yours in the Lord Jesus, Gordon.

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    Lydia Matejov: For previous see Lydia Kosova

    From: Lydia Matejov
    Lydia.L.MatejovATgsk.com
    Bernolakova, Slovakia
    Mon, 21 Jul 2003

    Dear Brother,
    I hope you and you wife are fine. I don't know if you remember me. We were in contact through e-mails some years ago regarding your site.

    My father – Bohuslav Kosa – is preparing a CD with the ministry of the brothers. He thought it might be interesting to place also the photos of the authors on the CD.

    • Mr. J . N.Darby, J. L. Harris, J. G. Bellet, Sir E. Denny Bart, Wigram, Deck, Stoney, Snell, Trotter, Mackintosh, Stanley, Reynolds, Dennett, Raven, Wolston, Cecil, Pellat, Cutting, Chater, Bevir, Champney, Coates, Myles, Cowell, Revell, Marsh, Anstey, Johnson, Sargent, Crossland, Collie-Smith, Gill, A. A. Elliot, J. Taylor, Carter, Gill, Hayward, Hardwick, Biggs, Wilkinson, Ware, McBride, Besley, C. C. Elliot, Nunnerley, Pearce, House, Carron.

    • Could you please advise me where I can get these photos. The mybrethren site seems to be no more valid.

    With much love in the Lord.

    Lydia Matejov, e-mail: Lydia.L.MatejovATgsk.com

    P.S: Below you will find the reason why my surname changed. See attached files: Engagement.zip – Wedding announcement.doc.


    To: Lydia Matejov
    Tue, 22 Jul 2003

    Dear Lydia,
    I certainly do remember you, and the valuable contributions of both you and Bohus to 'My Brethren'.

    • I was speaking to Andrew and Lois on Lord's Day evening and you were mentioned. Also they had just received a letter from you grandparents (?) in Brno.

    Betty and I are feeling the onset of old age but are counting on the Lord's support to continue here for Him at His will.

    I'm very interested to hear that Bohus is preparing a CD of ministry. Please let us know how he progresses, and greet him and your mother.

    • It would be quite cumbersome to send all the photos I have, but you are quite welcome to copy any or all from 'My Brethren'.

    • You will find them mainly in the History, Ministry and Biography groups – a few pages have several different photos, often of the same brother, but I don't have photos for all the names you mention.

    • Actually you have an incorrect URL for MB. Please see the correct one below. Let me know if you have any difficulty copying the photos and I will try to email them.

    We were very interested to hear of your marriage and trust you and your husband will prove the Lord's blessing over the years.

    • Thanks for the attachments. Unfortunately I can only bring up a few lines of text. The photos won't come up for some reason but I'll try again.

    Don't hesitate to contact me again if I can be of any assistance.

    With love in our Lord Jesus, Gordon and Betty.


    From: Lydia Matejov
    Fri, 8 Aug 2003

    Dear Mr. Rainbow,
    Thank you for your e-mail. I have managed to copy the most of the photos and some of those which were missing I scanned from father's literature.

    • The only missing photos are of the following brothers: Mr. G.R.Cowell, E.H.Chater, A.E.Myles.

    • We would be very glad if you could recommend us some other sources where we could get them.

    Psalm 103: 5

    With much love in the Lord, Lydia and Rene.


    To: Lydia Matejov
    Fri, 9 Aug Jul 2003

    Dear Lydia,
    Glad to hear you could find most of the photos you wanted. I'm attaching some of GRC and AEM. I don't have one of Mr. Chater and don't know where to find one. If I do find one I'll send it on to you.

    Thanks for Psalm 103: 5 – very encouraging!

    Love in our Lord Jesus to you and Rene, and your parents.

    Gordon and Betty,


    From: Lydia Matejov
    Mon, 11 Aug 2003

    Dear Mr. and Mrs. Rainbow,
    Thank you very much for your prompt reply and the attached photos, which are very much valued.

    We are hoping to travel to Zvolen tonight and to visit a young brother, Juraj, who is doing the technical support on the CD.

    • His mother Anna converted couple of years ago but father, who is a light colonel, still struggles. He was chosen to operate in Belgium for 3 years, where the whole family should move in November. Your prayers for his salvation would be appreciated.

    Then we would like to visit another former light colonel Pavel with his wife Olga, who both converted after the loss of their 2 sons.

    • They are very bright Christians and have been a great encouragement to my parents during past years.

    Please pass our greetings to dear Robertsons, when you speak to them next time. We got their letter and hope to write them soon.

    With much love in the Lord, Lydia


    From: Lydia Kosova-Matejov
    lydia.kATslovanet.sk
    Sun, 7 June 2009

    Dear brother Gordon,

    Greetings in the Lord Jesus to you and your dear wife!

    I am writing to ask you whether you have some news about brother Andrew and sister Lois Robertson. We used to have regular contacts with them via mail and telephone. In March they called us to inform us that brother Andrew had some health problems and had to be admitted to the hospital near the place they lived. He gave us the phone number to the hospital where he was and also the number to the Rehabilitation facility where sister Lois was during that time, so we were in touch with them.

    Unfortunately, since May we have not managed to contact either of them anymore -- no-one is answering the phone in the hospital room where brother Andrew was and the receptionist at the rehabilitation centre was not willing to tell me any information about sister Lois apart from that she had been dismissed from their facility.

    We would be very grateful if you could kindly let us know in case you have some news about them and give us their contacts.

    With many thanks in advance and much love in the Lord Jesus

    Lydia Matejov
    (Daughter of Bohuslav Kosa from Slovakia)


    To: Lydia Kosova-Matejov
    June 2009

    Dear Lydia,
    How good to hear from you. Andrew and Lois used to keep us up to date on you and your family. We often pray for the keeping and blessing of you and your young daughters.

    Andrew is out of the hospital at the moment and they are in a room together in "The Pavilion" a long term care facility connected with the Cape Cod Hospital. Both, especially, Andrew are weak.

    I spoke with Lois this morning and she was interested and encouraged to hear your email read to her. Her phone number is – and they are in Room 201-A.

    Today, I am adding you to a news email I send out from time to time and you will find all the details known.

    Thank you for writing and please greet Bohus and Hannah. May the Lord bless and keep you and your little family..

    Gordon and Betty Rainbow.


    From: Lydia Kosova-Matejov
    Fri, 12 June 2009

    Dear brother and sister,
    We were very pleased to get the detailed news about dear Robertsons -- thank you very much! We are very happy that they are no more separated -- we had been praying that they may be together soon. It is good to hear about the other saints who are praying for them and encouraging them. I will try to call them tonight. We will be very much interested in receiving the regular updates about them -- thank you very much for adding me to the news e-mail.

    I also appreciate your prayers for us - our little Evodia had to be repeatedly in hospital recently -- once in April while we were in Brno and then twice in Bratislava. We were released for home observation only yesterday afternoon. If there is no improvement she will have to have another operation. We cry to the Lord for his mercy.

    Our third baby is due to be born on the 8th July but it seemed many times already that it was coming much earlier.

    This comes with much love in the Lord Jesus from

    Lydia.

    P.S: My parents join in sending much love to you too.


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    Josiah Matthews

    To: Josiah Matthews
    JOSIAHMATTHEWSATcs.com
    [City not known] USA
    Tue, 26 Sep 2000

    Dear Josiah,
    Welcome to MB. Please come again.

    Sorry, I don't have any information on a "local Plymouth Brethren assembly in the Charlottesville, VA area", and can't locate any address list on the web.

    Yours in the Lord, Gordon.

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    Jeanne Marie Maynard

    To: Jeanne Marie Maynard
    jmaynard817ATyahoo.com
    Atlanta, Georgia, USA
    Fri, 31 Jan 2003

    Dear Jeanne Marie,
    Welcome to 'My Brethren' – glad you found it, and also found info on many brethren you remember well.

    • Unfortunately I can't place you – perhaps you can;t place me either – and would appreciate any details you are free to share.

    The 1932 hymn book is of course long out of print, but I'll post your request in 'Site News: Bulletins' in the hope of a favourable response.

    • Am I right to think that the 1932 book – the first book I used – was perhaps the last one you used?

    • If all else fails, the current 1973 book has the majority of the 1932 hymns.

    I expect to be speaking with Andrew Robertson this Lord's Day, and I know he'll be glad to hear of your interest in his gospel tract.

    I hope you visit MB again, and we will glad to hear from you.

    In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.


    From: Jeanne Marie Maynard
    Thu, 31 Jan 2003

    Dear Mr. Rainbow,
    Thank you for your prompt reply. I am the granddaughter of Edgar T. Maynard and Doris Maynard who travelled extensively to Canada, Scotland, England, and Australia, so perhaps you may remember them.

    • Andrew Robertson knows my family quite well, in fact he was responsible for my first "real job".

    We have quite a number of hymn books needless to say, however, my mom is in particular looking for the 1932 edition. Thank you for your help with this.

    I found the site quite interesting and will visit again.

    With love in Him, Jeanne Marie.


    To: Jeanne Marie Maynard
    Tue, 4 Feb 2003

    Dear Jeanne Marie,
    Yes indeed, we remember ETM's very well. Betty and I enjoyed their gracious hospitality at 3 day meetings in New York in the early 1960's. Some time later we had the privilege of having them stay with us during meetings here in Toronto.

    Last night I spoke with Andrew and Lois, and they were very glad to hear of you and your family again. Andrew certainly does recall helping with your first "real job"!

    • They were also interested to learn that you live in Atlanta. They left New York many years ago to live on Cape Cod.

    I do hope we get some reponse on the 1932 Hymn book for your mother, and look forward to hearing from you from time to time.

    With love in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.

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    Warren McAlpin


    To: Warren McAlpin
    wjslmcalpinAToptusnet.com.au
    Melbourne, Australia
    Mon, 3 May, 2004

    Dear Warren,
    Welcome to 'My Brethren' and thanks for your comments.

    • One of our objectives is to keep MB positive, even though we must touch on negative matters occasionally. It's encouraging to have this recognized.

    We recall, pre-1970, happy times in our home with Mr. and Mrs. Cyril Garrett, and Vernon and Gwyneth Sealey of your city.

    In a list of names I compiled some years ago I notice four McAlpins in Melbourne: JB, AD, AG, CJ.

    • We would be interested to learn your family connection and, of course, your own current exercise.

    In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.


    From: Warren McAlpin
    Wed, 19 Oct 2005

    Dear Gordon,
    I am sorry it has taken me so long to respond. Well done, in your work to maintain this site. I understand the negatives in having to do with the EB system and I thank God every day that I am free from the darkness that still holds many good folk in that system.

    You mentioned Mr. and Mrs. Cyril Garrett and Dr. Vernon and Gwyneth Sealey who both used to live in Melbourne.

    • I recall Mr. Garrett as a kindly man and his wife, possibly a Grace connection, both decent people who were elderly when I left Melbourne to live in Albury in 1982.

    • It was in 1982, that I got to meet Dr. Sealey again when I married his grand-daughter, Rachel and he had just completed a ten year 'stint' away from his wife, family and his family home in Albury.

    • I was told back then that — had said he could come back to the EB's and be at my wedding if he didn't cause the EB's any more trouble and sign over everything to his wife in case he ever came under further 'assembly discipline'.

    • Growing up as a kid in Melbourne, I remember Dr. Sealey being recognized as one of this country's top oral surgeons and having left his own Jewish faith and family in the 50's to join the EB's, became well known in EB circles.

    • He actually recruited my wonderful grandparents Roy and Hazel Baker in to the EB's in the 50's ironically away from their family and friends. So as you can see God works in mysterious ways!

    I came to know the Lord in 1989 after 29 years of belonging to this group who had taught me that 'We Alone Hold The Truth', through faithful employees who had never heard of EB's and who to this day can't believe what they did to my family.

    • That story is to be told soon and I have already taken up enough of your time and this from the slowest typer in the world.

    • I will however say that — had a direct involvement in the breakup of my marriage when he gave Rachel a direct message: 'We have ways and means to get you free from your husband'. I was withdrawn from within 4 hours when I told the local gurus that I found nothing in scripture to support his message. I also told the gurus to give — a message from me 'You are not going to break up my marriage and I will fight to keep it together'.

    • I have witnessed many marriage breakdowns over many years but alas mine became another statistic. Enough about me!

    Soon after, I heard that Dr. Sealey was again in trouble for suggesting that a young married EB mother go swimming to help in recovery from a back ailment. — was contacted and again Dr. Sealey was removed from his wife and family. This time however with little money and age, the EB's moved him into the garage.

    • I used to visit him on a regular basis but only when the meetings were on because he was petrified the EB's would see us and he would never see his family again. Can anyone imagine the fear that this man was under and that he would finish his days alone in the garage?

    • I am not sure how many years that he survived alone in the garage but I do know that he did break his leg while there.

    Sometime after I returned to live in Melbourne, his sister (never in) rang me to tell me that her brother had died and asked me to please find out what had happened.

    • I drove to Albury and established that sadly Dr. Sealey had been found by the EB's dead in the garage. I spoke to the head of the Albury Lawn Cemetery who told me that Graeme Sealey had rushed in one day to organize a plot. He said to Graeme 'When do you want it and for whom?' Graeme said, 'Its for my father and we want to bury him today'.

    • I am told by two witnesses that — had given instructions as to how the funeral was to take place and that because he died out of fellowship he was to have a small service from a minor hall and not the main hall!

    • There is also witness to the way the EB's placed the casket in the ground. It can only be assumed that the head of the casket was placed away from the headstone as a sign of disrespect for dying out of this cruel fellowship.

    I think I have said enough for one day.

    Gordon, you have kindly asked about my own family and I am almost ready to tell all about my journey but have been held back through renewed efforts to see my two boys and parents still trapped within this organization.

    • I can however tell you that the so called 'Review', set on by — is and has always been a 'sham'.

    Warm and Kind regards, Warren McAlpin.

    In loving memory of Dr. Vernon Thomas Sealey.


    To: Warren McAlpin
    Fri, 21 Oct 2005
    Dear Warren,
    Thanks very much for your detailed email which I greatly appreciate, especially as to your own situation and as to Vernon Sealey. What sorrowful happenings!

    • I hope you will find some comfort in the fine ministry on MB and the knowledge that we pray constantly for those, like yourself, who have suffered and still suffer.

    With love in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.

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    Wendy McAvene

    From: Wendy McAvene
    wenluvsjesusATyahoo.com
    Arcata, California
    Wed, 8 Dec 1999

    Hi Gordon:
    I attend Calvary Chapel of Arcata. I've been really close to the Lord for the past 9 years (since my husband got saved).

    We do share presents on Christmas, but I could agree that it is totally a wordly thing now.

    • So we just tell the kids that it's just become a fun holiday of getting gifts.

    • We try to teach them to put the Lord in their lives daily and not as the world may do – once or twice a year (Christmas and Easter).

    I do not wear a head covering and I am on a worship team – mostly because it blesses the sheep; so they've said, and that it helps them to really put their focus and thoughts on the Lord and his grace and mercy. As long as it doesn't stumble people, I think it's fine. Could I do without it, sure. But I do enjoy it.

    I do not speak in tongues and pretty much lean towards it's not necessary for today.

    Would love to hear more about you.

    God bless you, nice to meet another brother in the Lord.

    Wendy.


    To: Wendy McAvene
    Fri, 10 Dec 1999

    Dear Wendy,
    You can learn more about me in the "Personal" group and the "Studies" group here on "My Brethren". I hope you will find help and encouragement exploring the site.

    Thank you for sharing your background and exercises.

    • I trust you and your husband will be helped to continue in personal faithfulness to the Lord Jesus.

    One of the most important things for believers to accept is the Lordship of Christ and to learn that

    • His will must govern us in our personal, family, business and assembly – or church – relationships.

    • If this is so, we cannot allow practices or refuse practices on the basis of personal preference or what may be generally accepted.

    • Such an outlook is foreign to those who are bondservants of the Lord.

    I will be happy to hear from you at any time.

    Yours in the Lord, Gordon

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    Ian McDowell – With Christ, March 5, 2008

    From: Ian McDowell
    imcdATmelbpc.org.au
    Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    Thu, 13 May 1999

    Comments: Author of books and articles on the history of the Plymouth (sorry) Brethren – "A Brief History of the Brethren", "Chief Women Among the Brethren", "Rice Thomas Hopkins, an 'Open' Brother", biographies of full-time Brethren pioneer evangelists in Australia, biographies of "chief men" not in Pickering's book, etc. etc.

    Note that most Australian brethren who "came out" at the "London party" troubles of 1959-61 in Australia came to the "Open" meetings, though not without much emotional difficulty.

    • Oakleigh, the assembly nearest to our own, is composed of brethren and sisters who "came out", but remained together.

    • There are a number of others like that around Australia.

    • The evil behaviour of "Exclusives" is still a matter of public notoriety here.

    Blessings abundant be upon you and your work,

    Ian.


    To: Ian McDowell
    Sat, 15 May 1999

    Dear Ian,
    Thank you for sharing news of the situation in Australia. If is not too much trouble perhaps you would let some of the brethren in the Oakleigh meeting know of this site.

    "The evil behaviour  of 'Exclusives' " to which you refer is a cause of shame and sorrow to those of us who remember earlier times.

    • While I do not favour such names, those now known publicly as "exclusives" are not worthy of such a description.

    • They have sullied the history of brethren and dishonoured the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Your own labours are abundant. Have you considered putting any of your works on the web?

    • You describe R.T.H. as "open". I understood he was connected with "Needed Truth" in particular. Is that correct?

    • Are any of your biographies of those known as "exclusives"?

    Visit us again. New items are being added from time to time.

    Yours in the Lord, Gordon.


    From: Ian McDowell
    Sun, 16 May 99

    Gordon – Greetings and thank you for your email.

    I told Dr. Ian Beaman, a professor of computer science at a nearby university, about your website. He did not know of it. He does know of one which originates, he thought, in New York, which publishes a variety of material of interest of ex-Exclusive people. You probably know of it.

    RTH was an evangelist in the UK during the 1859 revival. For perplexity as to where to place converts for adequate nurture, he tended to separate those who received Christ in his campaigns.

    • In this he was linked with Boswell & co. who later became "Needed Truth". They published his material, but he would not link with them because he would not accept their four echelons of eldership.

    • They sent emissaries to Australia to bring him back to the fold, but he would not comply.

    • Whenever he returned to the UK he met freely in "Open" company.

    • I have been friendly with a number of his descendants; two of his sons, now deceased, were, regrettably, about half-way to "Needed Truth".
    We have had no less than twelve different sorts of Brethren in Australia, but are down to about four, because of various reunions, and confusion as to what tradition people belong to.

    • My thesis has always been that Brethren will stratify into four groups, represented by Taylorism, Kelly-Lowe, Open and Needed Truth.

    • This is a psychological rather than a spiritual phenomenon. No individual fits any of these stereotypes, but each of us has a preference. Mine might be described as "conservative open".

    Have not wished to put Brethren material on the net. The brother who does this sort of thing here, Ken Walker, kgwATalphalink.com.au, posts my more general ministry material on his website.

    My biographies are of "Exclusives" only in the sense of those who refused the Bethesda accommodation but did not go on with Raven or Taylor.

    • These are mostly lady hymn writers like Emma Frances Bevan, Celia Thompson or Hannah Kilham Burlingham in "Chief Women".

    • The evangelists were too warnhearted to go along with the negative notion of "Separation from Evil God's Principle of Unity".

    • Certainly we separate from evil, but as a consequence of separation to our Lord Jesus Christ first and foremost.

    "Exclusives" in Australia are a cult. They turn up in the current affairs programs about twice a year when the media get hold of some grievous case of destruction of a family.

    • The "man of God" is a Sydney fellow (Bruce Hales) with a notorius record of unusual conduct.

      • Note: Actually, John S. Hales, Bruce's older brother.   G.A.R.

    • I have been involved intermittently since the terrible outbreaks of 1960-61, as an advisor on the nature of "Open" meetings.

    Generally those who "came out" formed half-way-house meetings of their own, but these are more or less "Open" now.

    • Except that one brother at Oakleigh still wishes to address divine persons in proper order in the worship meeting, and many still unconsciously include the Taylor "error" with leading in praise.

    Sorry to rabbit on and on.

    Blessings abundant be on your website. Ian.


    To: Ian McDowell
    Thu, 27 May 1999

    Dear Ian,
    Thanks for the information on R.T.H. I tried Ken Walker but he was unable to point me to your ministry.

    I am interested in the "lady hymn writers like Emma Frances Bevan, Celia Thompson or Hannah Kilham Burlingham" and would be very interested in seeing your material on them. Is it in computer from for sending e-mail?

    You speak of "the negative notion of 'Separation from Evil God's Principle of Unity' ".

    • Separation from evil is necessary because of God's holiness. "Be ye holy, for I am holy", 1 Peter 1: 18, Leviticus 19: 2. This is hardly a "negative notion".

    • And this word is not merely to individuals but to us collectively as called to be "a holy priesthood" and "a holy nation", 1 Peter 2: 5, 9.

    You also say, "Certainly we separate from evil, but as a consequence of separation to our Lord Jesus Christ first and foremost".

    • Of course, to merely separate without it springing from devotion and love to the Lord Jesus would be mere pharisaism.

    Perhaps you haven't seen JND's other article "Grace, the Power of Unity and of Gathering" in which he says,

    • "What is, I think, important to be understood is that the active power that gathers is always grace – love. Separation from evil may be called for …"

    • The two sides go together, as Isaiah 1: 17 says, "cease to do evil, learn to do well".

    There is no doubt that the followers of John Hales, to whom you refer, have become marked by the features of a cult.

    • This is a great dishonour to the Lord and a cause of deep sorrow to those of us who know and love many brethren held in that system.

    As to the brother at Oakleigh, and perhaps others:

    • The Scriptural and spiritual order of the service (worship) of God has been opened up through years of humble and serious inquiry.

    • Those who have had their eyes opened to see it – and who are committed to the worship of God here and now, as we shall be forever (John 4: 23-24; Ephesians 3: 20-21; Hebrews 2: 11-12) – will not lightly exchange it for the misconception some have of "leading in praise".

    I trust you are not offended, but some points demanded a clear answer.

    May the Lord bless and help you, Gordon.


    From: Ian McDowell
    Fri, 28 May 1999

    Thank you for your email. I am not in the least offended by anything in it.

    The biographies of the lady hymn writers are in print and in my computer as prepared on the word processor of the Smart Integrated Package, an old-timer now, but one I prefer to all the others.

    • Please tell me what format you handle best. I do not have Word past version 5. Probably the easiest for me is the old Windows Write. If I put documents into text, the margins seem to come out all over the place, or not at all.

    Some of my material was on Ken Walker's website the last time I accessed it, but doctrinal material rather than church history.

    As you say, separation from evil is without substance apart from separation to Christ.

    • Separation from evil has utility, but without Christ there is no power to succeed with it.

    • I think that we are saying the same things in different ways, not saying different things.

    Blessing abundant on your work, Ian.


    To: Ian McDowell
    Fri, 28 May 1999

    Dear Ian,
    Despite the margins problem you mention, I prefer "the biographies of the lady hymn writers" in plain ASCII text, which I can reformat in HTML. Some of them might suit my "Biography" group. If so, and if you are agreeable, I would post them with proper author credit.

    Yours in the Lord, Gordon.


    From: Ian McDowell
    Subject: Four Biographies of 19th century Brethren Ladies
    Sat, 29 May 1999

    Gordon
    Here are the biographies, in text, as requested. You will see by the numbers that there are others. If you like these, and want more, I will send them. Use them in any way you like.

    Every blessing, Ian.


    To: Ian McDowell
    Wed, 09 Jun 1999

    Dear Ian,
    Sorry for the delay in acknowledging receipt of biographies of 4 lady hymn writers. Thank you very much. They are very interesting.

    • Yes, I would like to see the rest at your convenience, if it is not too much trouble.

    • Thanks also for permission to use them. I am not quite sure at this point what I may do.

    Perhaps you would clarify a few points:

    • Is Miss Thompson's first name Celia or Centra?

    • You say she lived with a Miss E. J. Elwood. Could this possibly be Miss F. (Frances) J. Elwood (1830-1927) who wrote hymns and poems? F.J.E. did remain with F.E.R. and J.T.

    What evidence is there that C.T. and H.K.B. are of "those who refused the Bethesda accommodation but did not go on with Raven or Taylor"?

    Yours in the Lord, Gordon.


    From: Ian McDowell
    Mon, 8 Nov 1999

    Gordon,
    Greetings from us Aussies and congratulations on the completion of the first year.

    • You asked me for biographies of other "chief women" who were once EB and came into a wider place. I have not forgotten, and will send more in due course.

    Nelson Joyce told me he was in contact with you followin his last visit to the USA. He is ex-EB (a member of the hierarchy), and a good friend of many years.

    • He was present at the disgraceful final Aberdeen meetings with J.T.Jr., and for a time completely confused, but, when our Lord cleared his thoughts, he simply left, at considerable cost business-wise.

    Oakleigh Christian Fellowship (ex-EB membership) here is now the centre of the (world-wide) Emmaus Bible College Correspondence Bible School work in our state (Victoria).

    • Brethren who commenced Emmaus USA in 1942 were "Grant Brethren" at the time, but GB opened their doors to all brethren soon after.

    • By grace, I teach God's Word at OCF next Lord's Day.

    Every blessing, Ian.

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    Lois K. McFarlane

    To: Lois K. McFarlane
    lokamacATaol.com
    Queens, NY, USA
    Thu, 12 Aug 1999

    Hi Lois,
    Betty and I remember well a visit from your family here in Toronto in the 1960's with Daphne and Alex Kirk.

    You might be interested in visiting "My Brethren".

    Yours in the Lord, Gordon.


    From: Lois K. McFarlane
    Sun, 15 Aug 1999

    Hi Gordon & Betty,
    I haven't been online for awhile but I did visit your website a few months back. There is so much information to absorb that I haven't had a chance to review and sign in as yet.

    • I will probably remember you when I see you but it's been so many years, I can't recall.

    Mom & Dad are still going strong at 78 and 82 and all eight sisters and brothers and thirteen nieces and nephews are doing well in different parts of the country.

    • We try to schedule reunions whenever possible.

    • Andrew (youngest) was able to see Alex and Daphne briefly when he was in Toronto about two years ago.

    • I wanted to attend the Vancouver reunion but things were too hectic here.

    • I also correspond with Malcolm.

    Best Regards, Lois.

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    Ian McGee

    To: Ian McGee
    rockxfrogATyahoo.ca
    Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada
    Thu, 6 Nov 2003

    Dear Ian,
    Welcome to 'My Brethren' and thanks for sharing your own background so fully.

    • I'm glad that you have found MB profitable and hope you will continue to explore.

    I regret any confusion you have is as to identifying us and, as you "have read some 2/3 of the web site" already, I hesitate to refer you to items you may have already seen.

    • The lack of specific identification has not been deliberate, although we aren't interested in drawing attention to ourselves, but rather to the valuable ministry of the truth.

    • Many guests of our own background will understand our 'position', and there are many partial explanations scattered through the 'Mailbox', 'My Answer' and 'My Stand'.
  • My wife and I have had the breaking of bread in our home with a few others for over 20 years.

  • We were connected with brethren in fellowhip with CAC and JT.

    Without going into all the details, some years after their death a certain man and his followers arose and introduced and enforced a legal system

      • which displaced both Christ and the Holy Spirit and oppressed the brethren.

    • This resulted in many leaving at various times – 1959-1970 – and there are several resulting groups and some scattered brethren.

    • For various reasons, we are not connected with any of those groups although we share much in common and seek to maintain good personal relations with some indiviuals among them.

    • We are humbled by all that has happened and that we did not withdraw earlier, but seek to go on in dependence on the Lord, in simplicity of heart, and in faithfulness to the truth which has come out through the ministry of JND and others who have followed.

    I'm not sure whether the above answers your inquiry sufficiently or not.

    • In any case, if you are agreeable, I would be most interested to have a telephone chat with you so that we might share our experiences more fully.

    • I am ready to call you if you let me know your telephone number and some suggested days and times.

    You say, "When I was in Toronto I had aquired a recorded booklet of Scripture readings with JT, C. A. Coates and others and it was amazing".

    • This is both interesting and intriguing and I would like to hear more about it and the source and availability.

    Looking forward to hearing from you again, and with love in our Lord Jesus, Gordon Rainbow.


    From: Ian McGee
    Fri, 9 Jan 2004

    My brother Gordon,
    Thank you for the prompt response to my inquiry some time back as to your meeting and such.

    • From my investigation, I understand you left the Taylorite meeting in the early 70's.

    The man I mentioned in NS has a wonderful book store called the Bible Treasury Book Store Inc. It is an exellent resource for books and you ought to phone him to receive a pamphlet, or just speak on the phone with him.

    I received the booklet of Bible readings from my roommate, when in Toronto, who was in the Jims from a fellow who remained in the meeting.

    • It is unfortunate to read of all the believers who left the Jims and never returned to gathering unto his name.

    I wonder if you have any knowledge of Mimico Gospel Hall? This is where I was in happy fellowship when in Toronto. — is one of the Elders there who I very much admired.

    I would enjoy a phone conversation. My # is — and you are welcome to call any evening after eight o'clock.

    • We would have much in common doctrinally save for views concerning the Spirit and Eschatology.

    • I read from the Darby translation of the Scriptures and look to few others save for the Greek Testament.

    • I would like to have a Darby Translation Concordance if you know where I might acquire one.

    I look forward to hearing from you soon Gordon. Bye for now. Ian.<><


    To: Ian McGee
    Mon, 12 Jan 2004

    Dear Ian,
    Thanks for your reply and information. I hope to be able to call you soon, perhaps tonight or in the next few days.

    • I'm not sure what differences we might have on "the Spirit and Eschatology" but will be glad to speak with you as to those matters.

    You should be able to obtain a concordance to JND's translation from Kingston Bible Trust in England or Dover Bible Fund in USA. See 'Site News: Bible and Books' to contact them.

    • I have used JND's translation as my main Bible for some 55 years, but occasionally refer to other versions.

    • I can find my way through a Greek interlinear New Testament, but am definitely not a Greek scholar. See Guests: My Answer 2: The Darby Bible.

    Yes, I know of Mimico Gospel Hall by report, having met some believers connected with it at Bethany Lodge, a seniors' home which we have visited for many years.

    • And I have had many contacts with others connected with the Gospel Halls.

    Looking forward to speaking "mouth to mouth, 2 John 12, even if by telephone.

    In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.


    From: Ian McGee
    Fri, 16 Jan 2004

    Dear Ian,
    I enjoyed our phone chat Wednesday evening. It is good to get to know each other more personally than possible by email.

    • As discussed, please let me know if and when you may be in Toronto so that we can meet face to face.

    We didn't have time to go into details on your views as to the gifts and as to the Lord's coming.

    • But from what you did say I suggest that there is need to review those matters in the light of all the relevant scriptures.

    In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.


    From: Ian McGee
    Mon, 7 Jun 2004

    My brother,
    It has been some time since our last contact and i've been reading a three volume set called 'Precious Truths Revived and Defended Through JND'. It is a most exellent resource for an accurate account of history concerning issues.

    I've also most recently read of the later developments as to your former meetings before your rightful departure of that which was leavened.

    It seems that JND was a most truthful servant and those who recognized this, eventually left the Plymouth meeting of BWN. I was happy to learn that H. W. Soltau saw the error of BWN too, though having been a supporter for some time previous.

    • Perhaps you could refer me to a more understandable teaching on the 'Ruin of the Church', as written by JND, for I find his teaching rather general and not fully explained so that I am able to see it in Scripture.

    • I have yet to investigate the teaching on the Lord's Supper as being separate from the Service of God, though I've noticed it on the website.

    I've been in Toronto a few times since our phone conversation, yet not having sufficient time to arrange a visit, I forwent contacting you. If you have any news of late or advice i would be glad to hear.

    Your Brother, Ian McGee.


    To: Ian McGee
    Wed, 9 Jun 2004

    Dear Ian,
    It's good to hear from you again.

    Regarding the ruin of the church, I don't have anyhting else to refer you to at the moment besides what is already on MB.

    • Perhaps we could have a telephone chat and go over any questions, also as to the Lord's Supper and the Service of God. Let me know when would be a convenient time and whether your phone no. is still the same.

    I do hope you will find time on a future trip to Toronto to have a personal visit with us.

    In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.

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    Phil McGrath

    To: Phil McGrath
    philmcgrathATbtconnect.com
    Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, England
    Tue, 27 May, 2003

    Dear Phil,
    Welcome to 'My Brethren'. We trust you found something of interest and will be free to share your background with us.

    In the Lord, Gordon.

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    Gene McLeod

    From: Gene McLeod
    grayfoxATiprimus.ca
    Burlington, ON, Canada
    Tue, 1 Jun April 2004

    Hello Gordon,
    You must have thought I got lost or something. I have had a tough few weeks – a sort of down-ness or sadness to the point of depression – a real heaviness.

    • Both Judy and I have been challenged. It seemed to lift just on Saturday and I feel like another person today.

    Thank you for the time you extended to me at your home. Forgive me for staying so long.

    • I really appreciate your counsel and am very grateful for your web site.

    • Almost everything is new information and somewhat overwhelming at times. I often have a sense of bewilderment – where have I been.

    • It is a sad indictment of the Protestant Church – we have been wandering in darkness. Why is there so much blindness?

    There is much to learn and catch up on. My favourite so far has to be F. E. Raven.

    • John Darby’s writings have a lot of hundred-dollar words and paragraph-long sentences that are very tricky for my intellect. I think I comprehend for the most part; it just takes longer for me to absorb.

    • Is Darby saying that the Protestant system is blaspheming the Holy Spirit through their insistence of a 'clergyman'? It would be nice if you could give me your understanding of this, Gordon, when you have some time.
    Thank you also for Andrew Robertson’s message on prayer. Any other guidance or directives would be appreciated.

    God Bless you and Betty. I very much appreciate what you are doing for all of us lost souls out here. I hope you will allow me to draw on you from time to time.

    God Bless – Love to you both, Gene.


    To: Gene McLeod
    Thu, 31 Jun April 2004

    Dear Gene,
    Yes, I had wondered what had happened to you following such a good time together.

    There are very few who don't feel down at one time or other, I certainly know what you mean.

    • Sometimes circumstances oppress us, at other times it may be we have let earthly things preoccupy us. What ever the cause the answer, and the preservative, is:

      • "If therefore ye have been raised with the Christ, seek the things which are above, where the Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God: have your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are on the earth; for ye have died, and your life is hid with the Christ in God", Colossians 3: 1-3.

    As to 'bewilderment", I believe you are going through the same experience as the man of John 9 after his eyes had been opened.

    • But, as with him, things will become increasingly clear and all will centre in the Son of God, Head of a new order outside the current religious system.

    In The Notion of a Clergyman, I don't think JND is "saying that the Protestant system is blaspheming the Holy Spirit".

    • Indeed there are some godly and faithful clergymen, but christendom generally – the Roman, Orthodox and Protestant systems – all shut out the free operations of the Spirit in the body by maintaining the clerical system as the sole channel of ministry.

    • They will all honour the Spirit in word but in deed they disbelieve in His power and restrict His service. This may not be blasphemy but it is very serious.

    I hope we can have further conversation, and Betty and I would like to meet Judy as well.

    Give me a call when you are free.

    Betty joins in love in Christ to Judy and yourself, Gordon.

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    R. Edmund McMullan

    From: R. Edmund McMullan
    remcmullanATearthlink.net
    Winston Salem, North Carolina, 27130 USA
    also Grand Cayman, B.W.I.
    Tue, 14 Sep 1999

    Dear Gordon,
    Thank you for your E-Mail. We just arrived in Vancouver, B.C. and picked up your contact.

    Trust this finds you well and following the Master. What a disaster has befallen the Brethren – the result of following a "MAN" instead of our master, Jesus Christ!

    Our love to you in Christ, Edmund McMullan.


    To: R. Edmund McMullan
    Wed, 15 Sep 1999

    Dear Edmund,
    Good to hear of you, and from you, again after so many years.

    There has indeed been a great disaster like the shipwreck which could have been averted for Paul said, "Ye ought, O men, to have listened to me", Acts 27:21.

    • If we had listened to Paul, "I have espoused you unto one man, to present you a chaste virgin to Christ", 2 Cor. 11:3, we would never made room for another.

    • One purpose of 'My Brethren' is to set the record straight and recall to Christ and the truth recovered.

    I hope you find opportunity to explore MB, and I will be glad to hear from you at any time.

    With love in the Lord Jesus, Gordon.


    From: R. Edmund McMullan
    Sat, 21 Dec 2002

    Dear Gordon,
    I just located your site and decided a brief note is in order.

    The dislocation of our lives due to the Brethren disasters has healed and we are thankful for God's leading in our daily lives.

    • We spend some of our time in North Carolina to be close to our daughter and our grandchildren.

    • We are so thankful that both our son who lives in Birmingham, Alabama and our daughter who lives in North Carolina are committed to the Lord Jesus as also our three grandchildren, all active in a Christ centered relationship.

    • Our eldest grand daughter is very active at school and elsewhere spreading the Gospel – she is 16 and soon headed for College/University. She visits with us often and is very close to her grandmother, my dear wife.

    • The other two girls are also committed to follow Jesus and the youngest girl visits us often and is very attached to yours truly.

    I left the Brethren as you know in 1961 following a privileged meeting with my dear father in June 1960 as he lay dying at the hospital in Ireland.

    • My Dad and I were always close and we also differed on many topics and we were not afraid to agree to disagree from time to time.

    • So he sought a "private meeting" with me and shared in detail a visit he had, during the previous night, a one on one dialogue with the Lord Jesus with instructions to share only with me!

    • Upon hearing all of that dialogue the decision to leave the then Brethren System was very easy to make.

    • We have not found another fellowship nor have we joined another church but we do attend a Baptist Church where my daughter and her girls are members.

    God has blessed our business in Financial Consulting and the activity has kept us very busy where I am chairman.

    Trust this finds you well and may our wonderful and gracious God add His blessing to your activities.

    Affectionately in our Lord Jesus, Edmund McMullan.


    To: R. Edmund McMullan
    Fri, 27 Dec 2002

    Dear Edmund,
    Thanks for writing and sharing the blessing of your family with us. How good that your children and grandchildren trust in our Lord.

    • The final meeting with your father was clearly of great benefit and direction to you. Many of us would have profited from such advice.

    I mentioned your email to Andrew and Lois Robertson, formerly of New York, and they were very interested to hear of you and Anna, whom they remember well.

    I trust you will visit MB from time to time.

    Betty joins in love to you both,
    Affectionately in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.


    From: R. Edmund McMullan
    Sat, 28 Dec 2002

    I am most interested to hear from other dear Brethren who have seen the light and left the evil system which man destroyed by selfish actions.

    • However, no one can destroy the love of our Lord Jesus for all men and I look forward to hearing from many Brethren, known or unknown.

    Looking forward to your conversation.

    Sincerely in our Lord Jesus, Edmund McMullan.


    From: R. Edmund McMullan
    Mon, 29 Dec 2002

    Dear Gordon,
    I much appreciate your e-mail and now look forward to seeing you in person some time real soon.

    • Where are you currently located? Where do Andrew and Lois reside these days? We would love to get together as these links are precious.

    We fellowship with our daughter and her family who are members of a Baptist Church

    • but I cannot join such as I miss the fellowship of the Lords Supper and the warmth of real Christian Fellowship, not that we do not have that among many we now know who worship as Baptists.

    We reside in the Cayman Islands and have done so since 1978 but we also have a home in North Carolina to be close to our daughter, Sandra Soper, and our grand children. They are so precious and they love the Lord Jesus so much and are not afraid to testify for Him. What a blessing.

    I am about to turn 77 in January 15th and God has blessed us so much both in our business and our children.

    We will probably be in Toronto soon to visit John & Marian Heggie, Flora Hartford and her sister with whom we maintain contact. If you are in that area we will be pleased to visit with you also.

    Stay in touch my dear Brother and may our awesome God add His Blessing.

    Your brother in Christ, Edmund.


    To: R. Edmund McMullan
    Sat, 28 Dec 2002

    Dear Edmund,
    Yes, it would be good indeed to see you and Anna when you visit John and Marian.

    • Like you we value the Lord's Supper and the warmth of Christian fellowship which we share with a few in our home.

    • We seek to walk in the truth as known pre-1959, but with our hearts open to all the saints.

    We are about 10 km from the Bethany Lodge complex where Flora and Jessie live in the Bethany Courts. We see them occasionally when visiting the Lodge as volunteers, which we have been doing for the past 15 years.

    We are both 73 and increasingly feel the weaknesses of age. Our address and phone: [deleted].

    Andrew and Lois Robertson would be glad to hear from you. They now live on Cape Cod, and are not on the internet. Their address and phone: [deleted].

    Let us know when your travel plans mature.

    Affectionately in our Lord Jesus, Gordon and Betty.


    From: R. Edmund McMullan
    Tue, 15 Jul 2003

    Dear Gordon,
    Just a note to let you know you are not forgotten and as I was having a restless night used the time to review your site.

    We have not been in Toronto for some time now but recently we did visit Vancouver along with our daughter and our Grand Children.

    We keep you all in our prayers and while I recently heard from my youngest brother, the first time in almost 40 years, I have determined that he was not allowed to respond to my response to him as I have heard nothing further.

    With much love in our Lord Jesus and may our Gracious and Loving God continue to Bless you.

    Sincerely, Edmund McMullan.


    To: R. Edmund McMullan
    Thu, 17 Jul 2003

    Dear Edmund,
    Your message and prayers are much appreciated. We try to bear up the many scattered brethren before our Lord.

    • I'm glad you had the ooportunity to reveiw MB and trust you find some encouragement. Jeff and I have been helped in going over Mr. Cowell's ministry as we add it.

    It is good that you have heard from your brother but we feel with you at the inabilty to maintain contact.

    • A recent note from Betty to her sister Mary – with the Jims in Neche – was returned by the post office as not accepted, return to sender.

    I mentioned your email to Andrew and Lois Robertson and they were very interested. They have good memories of Anna many years ago.

    May the Lord bless you and Anna and your family.

    With love in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.

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    From: Gordon MacNeil
    gmacneilATpersonainternet.com
    Sat, May 01, 2010

    Here is a copy of Dorman's Papers as requested. If you'd like the original for verification of the text, I could arrange to send.
    Gord MacNeil

    PS Separately, I'll send same document in PDF format.


    To: Gord MacNeil
    May 9, 2010

    Dear Gord, Thank you very much for the copies of Dorman's Papers, and for the time and labour you put into making them available.

    • It was interesting indeed to read them again. They seemed quite familiar though it has been a number of years since I last saw them.

    As you may expect from the contents of 'My Brethren' – while I can and do feel the breakdown, and am humbled by it I cannot – in regard to 'reception'– agree with ignoring what has taken place historically.

    You may be interested in some comments by JBS as to WHD's earlier history in MB's 'History: A Review of Truth'.

    Thanks again, and I will be glad to hear from you at any time.

    In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.


    From: Gord MacNeil
    May --, 2010

    Thanks for your note. I'd be glad if someone gets to read them who may be searching for a way out of the sectarianism that crept into the assemblies (at least many of those I was once associated with).

    • My father was an exception, trying to lead away from the closed doors and closed table. He wasn't totally successful, but died trying. He would be pleased to know that Dorman's Papers are now more widely available. Let's pray they are read and heeded. (if you want the yellowed' original, please ask).

    Gord.

    PS Are either of you by any chance associated with Jabe Nicholson? I met him twice within the last couple of years. His father Boyd was guest in my parent's home when just a boy training as an RAF pilot in Canada and many times later as a preacher.


    To: Gord MacNeil
    May 11, 2010

    Dear Gord,
    Thanks for the offer but "the 'yellowed' original" would be best retained by you.

    No, we are not associated with Jabe Nicholson and had not heard his name before, although I recall hearing Boyd Nicholson mentioned many long years ago when I was in the 'open' connection.

    Always good to hear from you. In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.


    From: Gord MacNeil
    May --, 2010

    OK - thanks for your reply. Do I misinterpret your comment "when I was in the "open" connection". Are you in the "closed" brethren now?

    The 'closed' brethren assembly was the type of assembly I was once a part of and what Dorman writes against. You have me confused with what "mybrethren.org" represents. With whom do you fellowship?

    Gord.


    To: Gord MacNeill
    May --, 2010

    Dear Gord,
    Sorry for any confusion. I thought the title of the website was clear: "My Brethren: the History and Ministry of the early 'Exclusive Brethren' (so-called)".

    • Also see 'Personal: My Journey' and elsewhere throughout the site.

    • See also 'My Stand 2: Open 1–2: Defence of rejection of the 'open' system as an alternative'.

    The word "closed" is used in several ways ,e.g. for the "Gospel Hall" group with which I have no connection.

    Because of several circumstances, my wife and I meet alone, having few links of fellowship further afield, but as the Guest Book and Mailbox indicate a fairly large number of contacts.

    We hold and practise Scriptural truth as ministered among the early 'Exclusive Brethren' (so-called) and as set out on MB.

    I trust this clears the confusion. In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.



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