Dear H—, I will comment on other points in your letter before the
particular matter of tithing which you asked K— to bring before D. and me.
You say,
It is saddening that you use the worldly church's language in speaking
of going to church.
We, here in Toronto, do not go to the assembly – as to a building or to a religious group – to be acted upon as a mere congregation, which is the practice in the so-called 'churches'.
It is encouraging that you recognize that
Our prayer is that the truth you have learned, in your short time with us and in our correspondence, will not be forgotten.
Walking alone, if necessary, is not easy; it is one of the most difficult things to do, but it is the only way of practical salvation from the bondage and domination of the evil one to which you refer.
While I respect any who have suffered for Christ – I refer to Watchman Nee – I would not be faithful to the Lord and to you if I did not inform you of certain facts.
In the early 1930's WN – who had been helped by ministry of J. N. Darby and C. A. Coates – wrote to England enquiring as to further ministry.
In 1933 Mr. Nee visited England and North America, attended the meetings and in some instances ministered the word. Unknown to the brethren at the time,
It also became known that he held unsound views
Personal remonstrance with WN, and extensive communications with other leaders in China failed to resolve the situation. They supported both WN's open practices and his errors.
An account of later developments, written by an admirer of Mr. Nee, shows there was a growing disregard for Scriptural principles.
You will understand, then, why I must counsel you to avoid contacts with members of that group – no matter how kind they may seem or actually be – and caution you not to form any links with them. This is for your spiritual well being.
See the following:
You may be correct in saying that "Most people's No. 1 concern and
priority is money. Christians can be unduly influenced so much so that I have seen one church going back to basics again".
"I have had chances to live by faith, and it is worth it. I find that
so much of (Christianity) being a Christian is about priority in contrast to Gnosticism … How about you?"
Now to come to your inquiry in your letter to K— :
I have no doubt that your inquiry and desire spring from a real longing to acknowledge – "paying back what I owe God" – all that God has done for you by Christ and through the Spirit.
In Hebrews, the payment of a tenth of all to Melchizedek by Abraham is used to prove the superiority of our Lord's priesthood to that of Aaron – it does not teach 'tithing'.
When God took up Israel as His people He instituted an extensive system of 'tithing' for the support of the priests and Levites engaged in His service and worship.
The public church is largely marked by practices carried over from, or inspired by, Judaism.
Does this mean that we have no responsibility to use the financial resources, which God has given us, in support of the service of God?
Not at all!
A tenth might be too little for some – and too easy for others,
as for the rich who "out of their abundance have cast into the gifts of
God".
There is no need "to look for a church in order to pay
tithe".
Giving through a so-called 'church' would involve you in supporting the stand of a particular group, and you have earlier expressed a judgment as to such "churches and denominations".
The collective giving of those governed by assembly principles is altogether different. Doctrine: The Collection.
Now I am not overlooking the very real practical difficulties as to the ways and means of giving in your isolated situation.
As to your remark, "I can't function usefully without the
church", I can and do sympathize.
You can begin by seeking to help and enlighten others, starting
with your own brother (John 1: 41), to see the nature and order
of the assembly as presented in the Scriptures.
You ask, "Where can I pay my tithe?". As Jonah did, (2: 9) you can pay your vows by coming again under the command of the Lord.
Another very real encouragement for us here is when you say, "It's been nine years since I left the brethren in Toronto. Time passes so quickly. I hope to see them again next year".
If your motive in travelling is right – i.e., not for a mere pleasure trip but to seek spiritual help and the comfort of Christian companionship here – I judge that you would be justified in using any funds you have set aside for the Lord's work to cover your expenses.
We are glad you do not forget us after so long a time, and trust that our God may open the way for you to come and see us.
Of course, you are no longer a young believer without other commitments as you were when here and, as you probably realize, your position as to breaking bread with us would need considerable clarification in order to be re-established.
The brethren join in love to you in the Lord,
Affectionately in the Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Dear H—,
You say, "My brother, M–– is a devout Christian now". What a good report!
I am glad that you have been able to counsel and help M––. The difficulties he experiences and the good advice you give may help him, as you say, to "see that a piecemeal solution to a symptom is not going to stop the cancer that has spread all over the body".
Keeping separate from the group M–– is with will give you moral power to render further help. The Lord may use this to set M–– and others free.
I consider Witness Lee an unreliable teacher, but the statement is fair. I am certainly unaware of anyone who could truly be considered a "great teacher" among the open people, though some might disagree.
In regard to your main question re "the four different groups of
brethren" you should first consider the following extract:
Many, having only a limited knowledge of the recovery that began around 1827, are unaware that there has been just such a steady and orderly opening up of the Scriptures by the Spirit – over nearly 130 years – in the ministries of JND, JBS, FER, CAC, JT and others.
One of the major themes of the ministry, particularly since about 1900, is the way that God has made Himself known in the Economy – as Father, Son and Holy Spirit – and, following the Lord's Supper, the suited response to the Lord Jesus and the Spirit and in approach to God in worship. It has been said that "the approach is to be equal to the revelation", Ministry by J. Taylor, 47: 206-227.
This cannot be appreciated apart from recognizing that, as partaking of the Supper, we are identified with the full import of the Lord's death as "our point of severance from this scene". Only then can we enter experientially into the privilege of being with Christ in the heavenly and spiritual sphere where He leads the praises.
See Hymn 192: 2, Miss F. J. Elwood 1830-1927, and Romans 6: 1-11; 1 Corinthians 10: 16-22; 11: 26-32; Ephesians 1: 17 – 2: 7; 3: 20-21; Hebrews 2: 12. There is no doubt in my mind that the "truth in all its branches"
has come out only through and among those identified with the ministries of such honoured servants as: J. N. Darby, J. B.Stoney, F. E. Raven, C. A. Coates, James Taylor Sr. and others.
As a young man, I searched out and made contact with various
groups, and read all the histories I could find.
Your interest and concern about these various groups and "how to identify them" is well intentioned, but I doubt that it would be profitable to go into all the details.
I am enclosing 'A Review of Certain Contentions for the Faith' by G. W. Ware. It only covers up to the 1920's, but contains most of the basic information you should have. See History: Early Contentions and History: Later Contentions.
Sadly, even those who have been identified with the line of ministry mentioned have suffered several divisions in recent years and, to their shame, most have not been true to the teaching of the Scriptures in a practical way.
My advice is to continue to walk alone in separation, growing in the knowledge of God and the truth – as you have been doing, instructing believers you know in the truth and waiting on the Lord to exercise some to move with you in the path of separation from iniquity.
There is so much I would like to share with you – not only as to what we might think of as external matters, but especially as to the meaning and experience of the Lord's Supper and the service (worship) of God. Your time with us was so brief that there was no opportunity for you to grow in the knowledge of these holy matters.
In your previous letter you mentioned the possibility of coming for a visit – perhaps I deterred you by challenging you as to your position and activities at that time. But now you seem to be clear as to separation – and this makes all the difference. I believe it would be of great benefit to you if the Lord opened the way for you to come.
There is so much that cannot be adequately covered in letters – personal contact and conversation allows opportunity to cover many matters and respond fully to any questions that may arise. Galatians 1: 18.
That verse refers to "your whole spirit, and soul, and body".
Other Scriptures make a distinction: "the division of soul
and spirit, both of joints and marrow, and a discerner of the thoughts
and intents of the heart", Hebrews 4: 12.
On the fifth day of creation, the fish and the fowl became "living
souls", as did the land animals on the sixth day – but spirit is not
mentioned as to them. Genesis 1: 20-25.
However, in the second and more detailed account of man's creation both are mentioned:
The Assembly and a "Church" – the Difference
K— let me read your letter. My heart rejoiced to have news of you again after so long a time, and to read, "I have been through some tough and trying times, but it's all for the better for the Lord has been with me".
"The evil one's most successful attack has been on the churches and denominations via deception and ignorance. So many Christians were taught wrongly and consequently live wrongly and are paralysed. So many were misguided by priests, pastors and Sunday school teachers into another kind of bondage. The truth that we know, said the Lord, shall set us free from these thoughts and deeds."
Watchman Nee and Witness Lee
Giving versus Tithing
are all considered together by the whole assembly in care for God's interest here.
A Possible Visit and its Challenges
Service in Separation
Thank you for your welcome letter. We are encouraged to learn that you remain faithful to the Lord and separate from the systems of men.
From an earlier letter:
Letter resumed:
Different Groups of Brethren
It has been well said that "one of the marks of the Lord being
with His people" is, "truth in all its branches, not limited and curtailed, but gradually expanding into their full dimensions", Letters from J. B. Stoney, 2: 54.
The Difference between Spirit and Soul
"Is there no difference between spirit and soul:
compare, 1 Thessalonians 5: 23".